auto cross set up wheels and Hoosiers
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auto cross set up wheels and Hoosiers
I have BBS RV-Fs on my car with T1-Ss. I have to stay with 17s because of my brakes. I am sold on Hoosiers but what is a good light weight wheel for autox and track days that doesn't cost too much? Looks are not the important thing here but weight and strength
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I still have access to the last of the R0_Ja close out deal on their LT-5's . They are 17/7 , 42 mm offsett and weigh 14.5 lbs. I think they only have white and silver left but I can have them delivered for less that 600 total. They originally retailed at 340 per wheel.I use them for my track wheels and so far they have worked well. PM me if interested.
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#7
Originally Posted by maxmini
I still have access to the last of the R0_Ja close out deal on their LT-5's . They are 17/7 , 42 mm offsett and weigh 14.5 lbs. I think they only have white and silver left but I can have them delivered for less that 600 total. They originally retailed at 340 per wheel.I use them for my track wheels and so far they have worked well. PM me if interested.
randy
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#8
Originally Posted by SpiderX
I have BBS RV-Fs on my car with T1-Ss. I have to stay with 17s because of my brakes. I am sold on Hoosiers but what is a good light weight wheel for autox and track days that doesn't cost too much? Looks are not the important thing here but weight and strength
If 225/45-17 then:
A3S05 are $213 each 20 pounds
R3S04 are $213 each 20 pounds
Otherwise I don't see Hoosiers in:
205/40
205/45
215/40
215/45
For those that don't have as big a budget for tires and need to fit 17x7 rims there are:
Hankook Ventus Rs2 Z212
215/40R17
20.5Lbs.
200 Treadwear
MAX PERFORMANCE
Y Rated
for $98 each. 20.5 pounds each.
http://edgeracing.com/tires/2154017/
These can be used on the street and for autocross and track- but not as good as the Hoosiers for all out performance- but also last longer and you don't have to swap wheels at the track since Hoosiers are not for street use.
#10
Originally Posted by minihune
Can you mention why you are sold on Hoosiers? Do you have past good experience with them, if so A or R compound? What size are you thinking to fit 17x7" rims?
If 225/45-17 then:
A3S05 are $213 each 20 pounds
R3S04 are $213 each 20 pounds
Otherwise I don't see Hoosiers in:
205/40
205/45
215/40
215/45
For those that don't have as big a budget for tires and need to fit 17x7 rims there are:
Hankook Ventus Rs2 Z212
215/40R17
20.5Lbs.
200 Treadwear
MAX PERFORMANCE
Y Rated
for $98 each. 20.5 pounds each.
http://edgeracing.com/tires/2154017/
These can be used on the street and for autocross and track- but not as good as the Hoosiers for all out performance- but also last longer and you don't have to swap wheels at the track since Hoosiers are not for street use.
If 225/45-17 then:
A3S05 are $213 each 20 pounds
R3S04 are $213 each 20 pounds
Otherwise I don't see Hoosiers in:
205/40
205/45
215/40
215/45
For those that don't have as big a budget for tires and need to fit 17x7 rims there are:
Hankook Ventus Rs2 Z212
215/40R17
20.5Lbs.
200 Treadwear
MAX PERFORMANCE
Y Rated
for $98 each. 20.5 pounds each.
http://edgeracing.com/tires/2154017/
These can be used on the street and for autocross and track- but not as good as the Hoosiers for all out performance- but also last longer and you don't have to swap wheels at the track since Hoosiers are not for street use.
#11
Spyder,
First I would suggest a 17x7.5 wheels rather then just 7".
Hoosier does make a 205-40-17 tire and I would recomend them over anything bigger at this point. A 225-45-17 "Hoosier" will need a big amount of fender work to get them to fit on a lowered Mini.
It's really hard to find a wider 17" wheel for the Mini unless you spend about $500-$1200 a wheel. The 205 works very well on a 7.5" rim, is lighter and is smaller dia, which is good for Auto-X.
I would first consider the Toyo RA-1 in a 205-40. It will last you tons longer and they need no heat cycling, which the Hoosier must have. Hoosiers go bad real fast and will end up costing you about three times the $$ in the long run.
Consider the Kosie K1s from Tire Rack and just make sure they are good and true before you mount the tires.
I'm running the Koseis and the Toyo 205s in my sig. I am now running a RA1 in a 235-40-17 dry (attached photo) and the Hoosier 225-40-17 rains.
First I would suggest a 17x7.5 wheels rather then just 7".
Hoosier does make a 205-40-17 tire and I would recomend them over anything bigger at this point. A 225-45-17 "Hoosier" will need a big amount of fender work to get them to fit on a lowered Mini.
It's really hard to find a wider 17" wheel for the Mini unless you spend about $500-$1200 a wheel. The 205 works very well on a 7.5" rim, is lighter and is smaller dia, which is good for Auto-X.
I would first consider the Toyo RA-1 in a 205-40. It will last you tons longer and they need no heat cycling, which the Hoosier must have. Hoosiers go bad real fast and will end up costing you about three times the $$ in the long run.
Consider the Kosie K1s from Tire Rack and just make sure they are good and true before you mount the tires.
I'm running the Koseis and the Toyo 205s in my sig. I am now running a RA1 in a 235-40-17 dry (attached photo) and the Hoosier 225-40-17 rains.
#12
Originally Posted by SpiderX
I am sold on them because that is what all my fast friends use. That being said tthey are running 15s. If it isn't painfully obvious from all my posts......on every subject I came into this KNOWING NOTHING. What I have learned has been expensive and tedious at times but fun and rewarding too. Tires for AUTO X and track is the "new frotier" for me. I am learning as I go. I have to use 17s because of my brakes. I do want competition only tires for these wheels and I want maximum stick
Hoosiers are very very good tires, but come in limited sizes for 17" rims that will fit the MINI. 225/45-17 will fit 17x7 or 17x7.5" rims but won't fit so good on a MINI that is lowered- be prepared to do some trimming for clearance.
When I searched on tirerack.com I did not find any Hoosiers that were 205/40-17.
Toyo Ra-1 is a good track tire and it can be used for autocross.
In 205/40-17 at edgeracing they cost $166 each weigh 19 pounds and come in 8/32nd inch tread depth which isn't the best for track use- they can be shaved to 4/32. Also Ra-1 are better suited to the higher temperatures of track use, short autocross runs rarely heat up tires enough for best results, that's why some tires come in softer rubber better suited for autocross use but they are not as durable.
If you have not driven on R compound tires before it might be good to try Falken Azenis Rt-615 ($101 each) or Hankook Ventis Rs2 tires first. You can gain experience, use these two tires on the street, at autocross or track and not have to wear out expensive Hoosiers until you are ready.
They both bridge the gap between street tires and competition tires and are easier on the budget (and durable).
Your "fast friends" that use Hoosiers may have the experience and skill to make good use of those tires. There are many choices for good competition tires. Your own skill level will determine how well you do more than anything else. Your suspension setup also plays a major role in how well you can use Hoosiers to their full limit.
Anyone with stock camber settings will likely wear out any competition tires in a hurry. In that case selecting the Falkens or Hankooks makes sense. But if you have adjustable front camber plates, race suspension, and lower control arms you can fine tune your alignment to get quite a bit out of race rubber.
#13
Originally Posted by onasled
Spyder,
First I would suggest a 17x7.5 wheels rather then just 7".
Hoosier does make a 205-40-17 tire and I would recomend them over anything bigger at this point. A 225-45-17 "Hoosier" will need a big amount of fender work to get them to fit on a lowered Mini.
It's really hard to find a wider 17" wheel for the Mini unless you spend about $500-$1200 a wheel. The 205 works very well on a 7.5" rim, is lighter and is smaller dia, which is good for Auto-X.
I would first consider the Toyo RA-1 in a 205-40. It will last you tons longer and they need no heat cycling, which the Hoosier must have. Hoosiers go bad real fast and will end up costing you about three times the $$ in the long run.
Consider the Kosie K1s from Tire Rack and just make sure they are good and true before you mount the tires.
I'm running the Koseis and the Toyo 205s in my sig. I am now running a RA1 in a 235-40-17 dry (attached photo) and the Hoosier 225-40-17 rains.
First I would suggest a 17x7.5 wheels rather then just 7".
Hoosier does make a 205-40-17 tire and I would recomend them over anything bigger at this point. A 225-45-17 "Hoosier" will need a big amount of fender work to get them to fit on a lowered Mini.
It's really hard to find a wider 17" wheel for the Mini unless you spend about $500-$1200 a wheel. The 205 works very well on a 7.5" rim, is lighter and is smaller dia, which is good for Auto-X.
I would first consider the Toyo RA-1 in a 205-40. It will last you tons longer and they need no heat cycling, which the Hoosier must have. Hoosiers go bad real fast and will end up costing you about three times the $$ in the long run.
Consider the Kosie K1s from Tire Rack and just make sure they are good and true before you mount the tires.
I'm running the Koseis and the Toyo 205s in my sig. I am now running a RA1 in a 235-40-17 dry (attached photo) and the Hoosier 225-40-17 rains.
#14
Originally Posted by minihune
Before you buy any Hoosiers, you might want to talk to Alex@tirerack.com.
Hoosiers are very very good tires, but come in limited sizes for 17" rims that will fit the MINI. 225/45-17 will fit 17x7 or 17x7.5" rims but won't fit so good on a MINI that is lowered- be prepared to do some trimming for clearance.
When I searched on tirerack.com I did not find any Hoosiers that were 205/40-17.
Toyo Ra-1 is a good track tire and it can be used for autocross.
In 205/40-17 at edgeracing they cost $166 each weigh 19 pounds and come in 8/32nd inch tread depth which isn't the best for track use- they can be shaved to 4/32. Also Ra-1 are better suited to the higher temperatures of track use, short autocross runs rarely heat up tires enough for best results, that's why some tires come in softer rubber better suited for autocross use but they are not as durable.
If you have not driven on R compound tires before it might be good to try Falken Azenis Rt-615 ($101 each) or Hankook Ventis Rs2 tires first. You can gain experience, use these two tires on the street, at autocross or track and not have to wear out expensive Hoosiers until you are ready.
They both bridge the gap between street tires and competition tires and are easier on the budget (and durable).
Your "fast friends" that use Hoosiers may have the experience and skill to make good use of those tires. There are many choices for good competition tires. Your own skill level will determine how well you do more than anything else. Your suspension setup also plays a major role in how well you can use Hoosiers to their full limit.
Anyone with stock camber settings will likely wear out any competition tires in a hurry. In that case selecting the Falkens or Hankooks makes sense. But if you have adjustable front camber plates, race suspension, and lower control arms you can fine tune your alignment to get quite a bit out of race rubber.
Hoosiers are very very good tires, but come in limited sizes for 17" rims that will fit the MINI. 225/45-17 will fit 17x7 or 17x7.5" rims but won't fit so good on a MINI that is lowered- be prepared to do some trimming for clearance.
When I searched on tirerack.com I did not find any Hoosiers that were 205/40-17.
Toyo Ra-1 is a good track tire and it can be used for autocross.
In 205/40-17 at edgeracing they cost $166 each weigh 19 pounds and come in 8/32nd inch tread depth which isn't the best for track use- they can be shaved to 4/32. Also Ra-1 are better suited to the higher temperatures of track use, short autocross runs rarely heat up tires enough for best results, that's why some tires come in softer rubber better suited for autocross use but they are not as durable.
If you have not driven on R compound tires before it might be good to try Falken Azenis Rt-615 ($101 each) or Hankook Ventis Rs2 tires first. You can gain experience, use these two tires on the street, at autocross or track and not have to wear out expensive Hoosiers until you are ready.
They both bridge the gap between street tires and competition tires and are easier on the budget (and durable).
Your "fast friends" that use Hoosiers may have the experience and skill to make good use of those tires. There are many choices for good competition tires. Your own skill level will determine how well you do more than anything else. Your suspension setup also plays a major role in how well you can use Hoosiers to their full limit.
Anyone with stock camber settings will likely wear out any competition tires in a hurry. In that case selecting the Falkens or Hankooks makes sense. But if you have adjustable front camber plates, race suspension, and lower control arms you can fine tune your alignment to get quite a bit out of race rubber.
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