Rota Slipstreams or 5Zigen Fn01r-c
#1
Rota Slipstreams or 5Zigen Fn01r-c
For my '05 PS/B Cooper S, I've decided on 16x7's in flat black. This size offers great weight loss and will retain good handling. And the black will look good against my silver body and black roof. But I'm having a bit of trouble deciding between two styles:
Rota Slipstreams:
http://www.jaydm.com/slipstream.htm
+40, +45
14.5 lb. ea.
$435 set
5Zigen Fn01r-c:
http://www.edgeracing.com/wheels/5zigen/
+42
15 lb. ea.
$688 set
The most obvious difference between these wheels is the price...but neither of these rims are really that expensive. Coming from my GTI with 18"x8"s and 225/18/40's, paying under 1k for a wheel and tire combo seems like a bargain. My main concern is the offset. Since the Fn01r-c's are exactly what the specs call for, are they inherently better than the Slipstreams i.e. no spacers, hubcentric rings, etc.? My second issue is regarding the looks. I feel like the Slipstream's are nice and chunky looking, but the big lip makes them look like they have a skinnier track than they really do. I want rims that look flush with the wheel arches. The Fn01r-c's "look" wider, but they don't fill in the wheel's diameter very well (and the stock brakes aren't that pretty). Your thoughts? Pics are welcome. Thanks.
Rota Slipstreams:
http://www.jaydm.com/slipstream.htm
+40, +45
14.5 lb. ea.
$435 set
5Zigen Fn01r-c:
http://www.edgeracing.com/wheels/5zigen/
+42
15 lb. ea.
$688 set
The most obvious difference between these wheels is the price...but neither of these rims are really that expensive. Coming from my GTI with 18"x8"s and 225/18/40's, paying under 1k for a wheel and tire combo seems like a bargain. My main concern is the offset. Since the Fn01r-c's are exactly what the specs call for, are they inherently better than the Slipstreams i.e. no spacers, hubcentric rings, etc.? My second issue is regarding the looks. I feel like the Slipstream's are nice and chunky looking, but the big lip makes them look like they have a skinnier track than they really do. I want rims that look flush with the wheel arches. The Fn01r-c's "look" wider, but they don't fill in the wheel's diameter very well (and the stock brakes aren't that pretty). Your thoughts? Pics are welcome. Thanks.
#3
Well, here is yet another totally biased answer. I have 5Zigen's, in anodized silver 17x7, on my car. I love them. One of the most frequent comments I get on the car - "Love the wheels!" The Rota's flat spokes aren't personally my bag of tea. I really like the see-through nature of the 5Zigen's - and being able to see all the machinery through the wheel. Let's me show folks my colored suspension parts. As you say, the stock brakes aren't as sexy as some out there, but I wouldn't call them ugly either. There just.... well, brakes.
If you are thinking of adding a BBK later, you might want to check the inside dimensions of the respective wheels. I haven't really done this myself, but the 5Zigen's look really roomy on the inside.
BTW, the 5Zigens do use a hubcentric ring, at least in my size.
Best of luck in your decision.
If you are thinking of adding a BBK later, you might want to check the inside dimensions of the respective wheels. I haven't really done this myself, but the 5Zigen's look really roomy on the inside.
BTW, the 5Zigens do use a hubcentric ring, at least in my size.
Best of luck in your decision.
#4
#5
Originally Posted by BelowRadar
For my '05 PS/B Cooper S, I've decided on 16x7's in flat black. This size offers great weight loss and will retain good handling. And the black will look good against my silver body and black roof. But I'm having a bit of trouble deciding between two styles:
Rota Slipstreams:
http://www.jaydm.com/slipstream.htm
+40, +45
14.5 lb. ea.
$435 set
5Zigen Fn01r-c:
http://www.edgeracing.com/wheels/5zigen/
+42
15 lb. ea.
$688 set
The most obvious difference between these wheels is the price...but neither of these rims are really that expensive. Coming from my GTI with 18"x8"s and 225/18/40's, paying under 1k for a wheel and tire combo seems like a bargain. My main concern is the offset. Since the Fn01r-c's are exactly what the specs call for, are they inherently better than the Slipstreams i.e. no spacers, hubcentric rings, etc.? My second issue is regarding the looks. I feel like the Slipstream's are nice and chunky looking, but the big lip makes them look like they have a skinnier track than they really do. I want rims that look flush with the wheel arches. The Fn01r-c's "look" wider, but they don't fill in the wheel's diameter very well (and the stock brakes aren't that pretty). Your thoughts? Pics are welcome. Thanks.
Rota Slipstreams:
http://www.jaydm.com/slipstream.htm
+40, +45
14.5 lb. ea.
$435 set
5Zigen Fn01r-c:
http://www.edgeracing.com/wheels/5zigen/
+42
15 lb. ea.
$688 set
The most obvious difference between these wheels is the price...but neither of these rims are really that expensive. Coming from my GTI with 18"x8"s and 225/18/40's, paying under 1k for a wheel and tire combo seems like a bargain. My main concern is the offset. Since the Fn01r-c's are exactly what the specs call for, are they inherently better than the Slipstreams i.e. no spacers, hubcentric rings, etc.? My second issue is regarding the looks. I feel like the Slipstream's are nice and chunky looking, but the big lip makes them look like they have a skinnier track than they really do. I want rims that look flush with the wheel arches. The Fn01r-c's "look" wider, but they don't fill in the wheel's diameter very well (and the stock brakes aren't that pretty). Your thoughts? Pics are welcome. Thanks.
#6
#8
6th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Fn01r-c fan here!
since they both use hub-rings go4 that 5Zigen...
Originally Posted by BelowRadar
For my '05 PS/B Cooper S, I've decided on 16x7's in flat black. This size offers great weight loss and will retain good handling. And the black will look good against my silver body and black roof. But I'm having a bit of trouble deciding between two styles:
Rota Slipstreams:
http://www.jaydm.com/slipstream.htm
+40, +45
14.5 lb. ea.
$435 set
5Zigen Fn01r-c:
http://www.edgeracing.com/wheels/5zigen/
+42
15 lb. ea.
$688 set
The most obvious difference between these wheels is the price...but neither of these rims are really that expensive. Coming from my GTI with 18"x8"s and 225/18/40's, paying under 1k for a wheel and tire combo seems like a bargain. My main concern is the offset. Since the Fn01r-c's are exactly what the specs call for, are they inherently better than the Slipstreams i.e. no spacers, hubcentric rings, etc.? My second issue is regarding the looks. I feel like the Slipstream's are nice and chunky looking, but the big lip makes them look like they have a skinnier track than they really do. I want rims that look flush with the wheel arches. The Fn01r-c's "look" wider, but they don't fill in the wheel's diameter very well (and the stock brakes aren't that pretty). Your thoughts? Pics are welcome. Thanks.
Rota Slipstreams:
http://www.jaydm.com/slipstream.htm
+40, +45
14.5 lb. ea.
$435 set
5Zigen Fn01r-c:
http://www.edgeracing.com/wheels/5zigen/
+42
15 lb. ea.
$688 set
The most obvious difference between these wheels is the price...but neither of these rims are really that expensive. Coming from my GTI with 18"x8"s and 225/18/40's, paying under 1k for a wheel and tire combo seems like a bargain. My main concern is the offset. Since the Fn01r-c's are exactly what the specs call for, are they inherently better than the Slipstreams i.e. no spacers, hubcentric rings, etc.? My second issue is regarding the looks. I feel like the Slipstream's are nice and chunky looking, but the big lip makes them look like they have a skinnier track than they really do. I want rims that look flush with the wheel arches. The Fn01r-c's "look" wider, but they don't fill in the wheel's diameter very well (and the stock brakes aren't that pretty). Your thoughts? Pics are welcome. Thanks.
#13
6th Gear
iTrader: (1)
hard decisions huh............
..............remember, its allways better 2go w/a wheel made for ur' hub, rather than usin' a hub-ring to fit that wheel on ur mini car...but in the end its all about how it look's. right? in that VW seen its alllllllll about how nice & tight wheels will look under the fenders on a GTI car.
im on that same boat right now i have a vr6 jetta 03'( GLI) so iknow ur' seen dude & its a hard decision indeed................
im on that same boat right now i have a vr6 jetta 03'( GLI) so iknow ur' seen dude & its a hard decision indeed................
Originally Posted by BelowRadar
Thanks for all your answers. I don't know that it's made it any easier for me, though!
#14
Well, the 5Zigen's had it on account of them being a pound lighter and that they're not "knock off's", but considering that the Rotas have the correct hub without rings, cost about $200 less a set, and are available within driving distance of my house (no shipping cost), I'm now slipping towards the Slipstreams. Anyone have any other opinions or any bad play-on-words they'd also like to add?
#15
Why would hub rings make a difference? I've had hub rings on BBS wheels on a BMW for years with no problems - I've seen them used with all quality of wheels on many cars just fine - just choose what you like.
The remark about the BBK is good, if there is any chance you'll get brakes be sure of what the wheels can fit beforehand.
The remark about the BBK is good, if there is any chance you'll get brakes be sure of what the wheels can fit beforehand.
#16
Originally Posted by BelowRadar
Well, the 5Zigen's had it on account of them being a pound lighter and that they're not "knock off's", but considering that the Rotas have the correct hub without rings, cost about $200 less a set, and are available within driving distance of my house (no shipping cost), I'm now slipping towards the Slipstreams. Anyone have any other opinions or any bad play-on-words they'd also like to add?
#17
Originally Posted by eVal
Why would hub rings make a difference? I've had hub rings on BBS wheels on a BMW for years with no problems - I've seen them used with all quality of wheels on many cars just fine - just choose what you like.
The remark about the BBK is good, if there is any chance you'll get brakes be sure of what the wheels can fit beforehand.
The remark about the BBK is good, if there is any chance you'll get brakes be sure of what the wheels can fit beforehand.
#19
Originally Posted by BelowRadar
Just less percent error, I guess. I know lots of people use them and I'm not necessarily opposed to it, but I do think the non-ring option is more attractive.
I used to keep a couple extra sets on hand because I would invariably destroy a couple when doing any sort of swaps.
If you can get a wheel with the correct hub bore, it makes life a little bit easier.
#22
Originally Posted by Skiploder
Rings are a major pain in the a$$ when you are swapping out rims between street and track, rotating tires, etc.
I used to keep a couple extra sets on hand because I would invariably destroy a couple when doing any sort of swaps.
If you can get a wheel with the correct hub bore, it makes life a little bit easier.
I used to keep a couple extra sets on hand because I would invariably destroy a couple when doing any sort of swaps.
If you can get a wheel with the correct hub bore, it makes life a little bit easier.
#23
Ive been a big fan of Rotas since I started auto-xing. The best part was when a friend of mine who sold vast quantities of wheels ranging from steelies to high end Works, and Volk said "The weight claims that Rota makes are the closest to the actual weight of the wheel that I've found. Many of the high end wheels that I've weighed actually are a pound or two heavier than stated by the companies. In some cases its actually closer to 4lbs heavier."
For the $$$ Ill take a rota any day
For the $$$ Ill take a rota any day
#24
I went through the same desicion process and ended up with the Rotas. The hub centric asspect was important to me as I do track the car. I went with 16x7@45 and went to short 235x40x16 tires for a gearing gain (03 model). I dropped about 18# per corner from stock 17" minilights. The quality on the Rotas seems excellent - no blimishes or issues at all. Mine are Royal grey. I also have Wilwoods BBK on the car and the Rotas fit without spacers (also important to me on the track). I do think the 5Zigen may look a tad better, but performance, safety, and value were higher on my list.
Wes
Wes
#25
Originally Posted by Wesport
I went through the same desicion process and ended up with the Rotas. The hub centric asspect was important to me as I do track the car. I went with 16x7@45 and went to short 235x40x16 tires for a gearing gain (03 model). I dropped about 18# per corner from stock 17" minilights. The quality on the Rotas seems excellent - no blimishes or issues at all. Mine are Royal grey. I also have Wilwoods BBK on the car and the Rotas fit without spacers (also important to me on the track). I do think the 5Zigen may look a tad better, but performance, safety, and value were higher on my list.
Wes
Wes