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Old 09-14-2005, 10:40 PM
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Slites really 55 pounds each?

Are the Slites really 55lbs each? I was reading another post on this forum, and if so !!!

Are there any other cons to Slites that I should be aware of as an Slite newb?
 
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Old 09-14-2005, 10:58 PM
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The wheels themselves are just over 25 pounds (over twice the weight of the supposedly wimpy/dorky 15" holies). The runflats are heavy, but I don't think they bring you to 55 pounds. I think I remember reading something like 47 pounds for the combo.

Here's a great FAQ from mini2.com. I don't know why NAM doesn't have something similar.
 
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Originally Posted by chrisnl
The wheels themselves are just over 25 pounds (over twice the weight of the supposedly wimpy/dorky 15" holies). The runflats are heavy, but I don't think they bring you to 55 pounds. I think I remember reading something like 47 pounds for the combo.
I'm a dork...and Im wimpy...give me the Holeys any day!

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I forgot to mention theyre on my S (for shame).

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55lb are with the GoodYear All-season runflats (that I have).

Slits - 25lb
GoodYear tire - 30lb
 
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As I wrote in my thread on them when I switched - the MINI2 faq is dead wrong. YES they are that heavy - I weighed mine coming off the car (new).


I dropped 11 lbs. per corner with aftermarket wheels (not light weight even) and ES100 tires (stock 17" size).

In the end though, it makes no difference on the street, I can't tell a bit of difference, except the added grip right off the line.
 
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Old 09-15-2005, 05:41 AM
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No difference? I dropped the s-lites & went to 15" rewinds. My car feels like it picked up 10 ponies & stops noticeably quicker too.
 
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size matters

as opposed to what my three year old son believes

Bigger isn't always better but better is always better

and MINI is Best...
 
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Weighed mine after I swapped them out at the dealer on delivery. With the Goodyear RS-A Runflats, they weighed just over 47 lb.
 
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Old 09-15-2005, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by kaelaria
As I wrote in my thread on them when I switched - the MINI2 faq is dead wrong. YES they are that heavy - I weighed mine coming off the car (new).


I dropped 11 lbs. per corner with aftermarket wheels (not light weight even) and ES100 tires (stock 17" size).

In the end though, it makes no difference on the street, I can't tell a bit of difference, except the added grip right off the line.
If you can't tell the difference on the street, your but dyno is dead
 
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Originally Posted by bodinski
No difference? I dropped the s-lites & went to 15" rewinds. My car feels like it picked up 10 ponies & stops noticeably quicker too.
Apples and oranges. I didn't switch sizes, just weight.
 
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Originally Posted by mr. zero
Weighed mine after I swapped them out at the dealer on delivery. With the Goodyear RS-A Runflats, they weighed just over 47 lb.
The Pirellis are heavier than the old Goodyears.
 
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Originally Posted by apexer
If you can't tell the difference on the street, your but dyno is dead
Nope, working just fine.

Maybe you just didn't correctly read my statement. I said on the street.

I don't drive it on a road track, nor do I drive it on the street as IF I WERE on a road track. It makes no difference driving normally on the street. No one I gave rides too could tell any difference either - ride is just as stiff, same sound, same cornering, same reaction over the same bumps, dips and streets. Aside from the added traction of the tires right off the line, it was a purely asthetic swap.
 
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When I packed my S-Lites with Dunlop RF in a cardboard box for shipping, UPS weighed them at 52 lbs each.
 
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Originally Posted by Wagnbat
Are the Slites really 55lbs each? I was reading another post on this forum, and if so !!!
Wagnbat. As someone else pointed out, the FAQ at MINI2 is wrong on the Goodyears. They do NOT weigh 30 lbs. they weigh 22 pounds. See http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=EZ3&url=/tires/Spec.jsp&make=Goodyear&model=Eagle+RS-A&partnum=045VR7RSAEMT&vehicleSearch=true&fromComp are1=yes&place=17
for 17". If you look at a Non-RF like the Goodyear F1, its 20 pounds for a 40 series 225. Two pounds is not worth worrying about for real life driving.

Unless your really going racing (not a track day but some SCCA sanctioned thing) then unsprung weight probably don't mean much in everyday driving. If you want to get into racing, then unsprung weight means a great deal, far more than just taking weight off the car (I believe).

Hope that helps.
 

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My S-Lite / Goodyear RS-A combo weighs 50-lb per corner. So, 200 lb of wheels/tires is gathering dust in my garage.
 
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FYI (ppl selling wheels/tires and shipping)
UPS has a weight limit of 150 so dont try to ship all 4 tgt like I did..

on the UPS scale with runflat tires they were 101 pounds with 2 in each box. the 2 boxes insured for $300 from TN to IN reg ground shipping was $165.
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Originally Posted by kaelaria

... the MINI2 faq is dead wrong.
The wheel weights in the FAQ were provided by MINI USA and the tire weights by the manufacturer.
 
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Originally Posted by Hammer
When I packed my S-Lites with Dunlop RF in a cardboard box for shipping, UPS weighed them at 52 lbs each.
Yeah, that mother was heavy to move into my basement. Not to mention awkward too as it was something round and heavy in a cardboard box.
 
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Originally Posted by MINIAC
The wheel weights in the FAQ were provided by MINI USA and the tire weights by the manufacturer.
Who cares - it's wrong.
 
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I am interested in the tire/wheel weight issue from an acceleration point of view, but plead total ignorance. Is 55 lbs heavy? Then what is appreciably lighter? I read on an old thread that shaving pounds off the wheels makes a substantial difference in straight line. Anyone want to help educate me? (No Mini left behind).
 
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Originally Posted by MINIAC
The wheel weights in the FAQ were provided by MINI USA and the tire weights by the manufacturer.
So is tirerack wrong? Because 8 pounds is huge
 
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Originally Posted by blue agave
Anyone want to help educate me? (No Mini left behind).
Nice.

I'm also interested in what is 'appreciably lighter' than the stock Slites/Runflat combo. At first I thought it was solely the S-Lites which were 55lbs, and that was the reason I started the thread... But after some edification by our community, I'm wondering how much shaving 7lbs per wheel 'really' helps.
 
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Originally Posted by Wagnbat
Nice.

I'm also interested in what is 'appreciably lighter' than the stock Slites/Runflat combo. At first I thought it was solely the S-Lites which were 55lbs, and that was the reason I started the thread... But after some edification by our community, I'm wondering how much shaving 7lbs per wheel 'really' helps.
It has been said elsewhere . . ."Adding one pound of unsprung weight (according to a "general" ratio) is worth about 20 pounds of sprung weight." If this is indeed true, that 7 lbs per corner, x 4 wheels, equates to a weight savings of 560 lbs of sprung weight.
 
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Dead wrong.


By that flawed logic I just cut my car's weight by 30%
 


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