Tires, Wheels, & Brakes Discussion about wheels, tires, and brakes for the new MINI.

what width wheel will give best handling?

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Old 09-25-2005, 03:35 PM
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it really depends on the profile you use, but i would suggest at
least a 225/40. my other pc has the tire size calculator i made so not
sure what that equates to vs 16 and 17in wheels circumference, but
as a reference, you'll probably want to use 225 size.
 
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yeah thats what i figured. so not to expensive im guessing. thanks man
 
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profile matters 1st b4 width

17's u need to be right at 225 but it depends on what tyre u choose & whether u want a slight strech or not, to get rid of that ugly tyre bulge but w/16's u could do 215's i dont see why not(tyre bulge will not allow u to get closer to the ground as far as drop goes.
Toyo tyres has a good guide on their web site they show all of the measurements on there that u could possibly need
-price dood ur looking at such a wide spectrum that it jus depends on what brand name u go for.......
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does anyone know what size tire u need to go with for a 8" wide rim? 16 or 17 inch. and maybe how much for a good tire?
 
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Old 09-25-2005, 08:02 PM
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yeah i know theirs tons of shi& out there. as far as tire bulge goes, do u mean u kind of want that stretch so the tire clear the fender arch?. they have that slight angle on the sidewall?
 
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tires handle corners better when it is slightly stretched than it its
slightly bulged... but yeh, it also helps clear your fender if you are
running wide wheels with aggressive offset for those wheels.


i saw a benz coupe running some wide tires on factory wheels to
try to get that flush look... man it looked like crap. i bet it even
handles like crap. that's wat happens when people who have no
idea how to setup a car tries to do something.
 
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another thing i noticed running wider tread is that it feels like it might have slowed the car down A bit due to drag cuz of the increased contact patch plus im running sticky Proxes4 rubber so ill b swapping them out for 205's 40 on a 7.5 wide rims (17's). might b pushin' it but will see

after the side walls wore down a bit it feels better... but could jus have gotten use to it!
 
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yeah i dont want to be one of those people, i hope i get everything right with my setup. do u guys recommend a certain range for offset when going with a wider rim (8")? the smaller u go the more they stick out right? basically. i dont want them to stick out too far. a tiny bit if any.
 
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Originally Posted by jammin636
yeah i dont want to be one of those people, i hope i get everything right with my setup. do u guys recommend a certain range for offset when going with a wider rim (8")? the smaller u go the more they stick out right? basically. i dont want them to stick out too far. a tiny bit if any.
If you go with a wider rim, wider than 7" then you also have to go with a smaller offset rim. Otherwise the tire will start to hit things in the wheel well, like the frame, or suspension bits. Especially when you are trying to make a turn.

My best guess would be that you need to go with a 35mm offset with the 8" rim. If you don't change the offset, you could use wheel spacers to gain clearence. But that is really a backwards way to do it.

As far as what width tire, just look thru the tirerrack.com site. They list what tires fit what rim width. They also list the diameter of the tires. Find something that is close to 24" diameter and then the speedo and odometer will stay accurate. If you go much bigger you will riun into fit problems inside the wheel well.

The height of the sidewall is expressed as a percentage of the tread width. So, a 35 series tire that is 205 wide is 2.8". A 35 series tire that is 235 wide has a sidewall of 3.2". The standard 195/55-16 sidewall is 4.2".

To achieve a 24" diameter with an 8" rim width may not require you to use a 35 series tire. Especially if you will be running 16" rims.


Another choice would be to order some two or three piece wheels with the exact diameter, width, and offset you want.
 
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thanks man. good info. i definetly would not want to have to put wheel spacers on. if i can get them to fit right up that would be n ice. my buddy with the 10" rims had to get spacers but im not going that route. and yeah custom rims would be nice but i dont know if i have the money or paitence for that. ya know
 
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I would try to find out what offset the hamann HM4s have.

they are 17x8 and made for Mini for they should have the correct offset.
 
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yeah i was lookin at the hammans but it think id rather go with 17s. the hammans r quite heavy for my liking. and pretty expensive too. they r very nice looking wheels though
 
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heavy!?!?!? try anchors! ...but NiCE ones w/a good 'lip' if ur into that
Originally Posted by jammin636
yeah i was lookin at the hammans but it think id rather go with 17s. the hammans r quite heavy for my liking. and pretty expensive too. they r very nice looking wheels though
 
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well compared to my slites theyre pretty lite. but thats not the point. the hammans are still heavy
 
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tru dat!! R u goin' 2keep ur stocker's??
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well compared to my slites theyre pretty lite. but thats not the point. the hammans are still heavy
 
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what I was trying to say is that the Hamann HM4s have a +43mm offset (according to mini mania) so if you stay around that offset in a 17x8 wheel, it shouldn't rub.(ideally)
 
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Originally Posted by jammin636
does anyone know what size tire u need to go with for a 8" wide rim? 16 or 17 inch. and maybe how much for a good tire?
If you go with 16x8 rims you can mount 225/40-16 tires but the selection of tires is very limited:
Kumho Ecsta Supra 712 $89 each 280 tread wear 21 lbs. (tirerack.com)
Toyo Proxes T1S $109 each 23" outer tire diameter 280 tread wear 19lbs
Falken Ziex ZE-512 $74 each 360 tread wear 19.4 lbs
(tread width 8.2" with 8" rim)

Your selection of tires is much better in 215/40-16 or 215/45-16.
If your budget allows-
Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 in 215/40-16 for $131 each and $75 free gas offer
22.8" outer tire diameter, 19 lbs, 7.5" tread width with 8" rim.

For 17x8" rim
215/40-17 and 215/45-17 give the best selection and fit the MINI.
225/45-17 runs taller than stock so lowered suspension often leads to trimming the wheel wells.
225/40-17 isn't available.
 
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yeah im probly goin to keep the stockers unless somone wants to buy em off me. i like having spare parts. void i see what ur sayin about offset, im wiling to make adjustments if rubbing becomes an issue. and i ment to say i want to go with 16s in my last post. minihune thanks for the info. i dont know very much about tires expect the sizes and stuff, not to much about quality. is their any brand or size u could suggest on an 16x8 wheel??
 
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Originally Posted by jammin636
yeah im probly goin to keep the stockers unless somone wants to buy em off me. i like having spare parts. void i see what ur sayin about offset, im wiling to make adjustments if rubbing becomes an issue. and i ment to say i want to go with 16s in my last post. minihune thanks for the info. i dont know very much about tires expect the sizes and stuff, not to much about quality. is their any brand or size u could suggest on an 16x8 wheel??
 
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what do u want a set of stock slites for?? im just curious.
 
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...4winter tyres in the snow!! 'n of course to powder coat them in graphite
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what do u want a set of stock slites for?? im just curious.
 
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