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Old 12-07-2005 | 07:14 PM
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How do 45mm spacers affect performance?

Can 45mm spacers all around have any negative effect on the car regarding performance or otherwise? From what I've heard it will actually help the suspension since it creates a wider track, but I just want to verify this before I go and do it to my car.
 
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Old 12-07-2005 | 08:20 PM
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damn, that will push the tires out to eternity.

do you mean like a 5mm spacer? or a 10 or 15mm?

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Can 45mm spacers all around have any negative effect on the car regarding performance or otherwise? From what I've heard it will actually help the suspension since it creates a wider track, but I just want to verify this before I go and do it to my car.
 
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Old 12-07-2005 | 08:45 PM
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Koenner1 - I do not think spacers will affect performance

Maybe if you had a lowered 1979 Buick with gold wire wheels and a 'Jealousy' placque in the rear window THEN 45 mm might be a good idea - JK

Other wise you might want to think about 3 - 5 mm.

My wheels have 5mm spacer in the back. I used to have them in the front but I took them off because vibration. You can pick them up from Pilo for a great price. My pic below shows what my SSR look like with 3 mm spacers. The original offset is 42 which brings me down to a 39 mm offset.

Click on my sig to see my what they look like.
 
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Old 12-07-2005 | 08:59 PM
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yea i guess something like a 10 or 15mm. how would that effect the performance? would i need to correct anything?
 
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Old 12-07-2005 | 09:01 PM
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Sorry for the hi-jack, but ugly_duckling, are those 16x7s?
 
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Old 12-07-2005 | 09:07 PM
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what is offset?
 
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Old 12-07-2005 | 09:19 PM
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Mind you I am no specialist but OFFSET is the measurement of how much your wheels stick out. For example... if you look at your wheel arches you can see if the wheel is under the arch or flush with it. When it sticks out too much you would have rubbing.

The stock S lites have an offset of 45 if I am not mistaken. If you are planning to get wheels you have definitely keep in mind what offset the wheel comes in.


And the SSR Comp R's are 16x6.5. Hubcentric with no center caps. They were the first production run produced with TireRack just for the Mini.
 
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Old 12-07-2005 | 09:20 PM
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thats what I figured, they are not sticking out like 16x7,5s. TY

Originally Posted by ugly_duckling
And the SSR Comp R's are 16x6.5. Hubcentric with no center caps. They were the first production run produced with TireRack just for the Mini.
 
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Old 12-07-2005 | 09:31 PM
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Scuderia - Ouch! Dont say that out loud. Thats why i went for the spacers. And I still feel my offset is not aggresive enough. -


Here are some great priced spacers for those looking

http://www.piloracing.com/proddetail.php?prod=6mmspacer
http://www.piloracing.com/proddetail.php?prod=3mmspacer

Don't forget to get longer bolts if you go for the 6mm - which is another 50 bucks
 
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Old 12-07-2005 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by koenner1
what is offset?
here you go. (link below).

offset will dramatically change handling characteristics
if you do 10mm or more. 5mm is more or less for clearance/cosmetics
imho. i purposefully bought wheels with high offset on my other
car and have a variety of different offset spacers from Kics.

btw, for those looking for spacers, i highly recommend you get ones
with the hubcentric rings (H&R's) unless you can still rest your
wheel on the factory bore.

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/...jsp?techid=101
 
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Old 12-07-2005 | 09:43 PM
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ugly duckling - your car looks fine.

berky-
16x7.5's with +42 does not stick out btw. it is still tucked under the
fender a little bit. it is very close to flush, but not sticking out...
just the way I like it.

Originally Posted by ugly_duckling
Scuderia - Ouch! Dont say that out loud. Thats why i went for the spacers. And I still feel my offset is not aggresive enough. -


Here are some great priced spacers for those looking

http://www.piloracing.com/proddetail.php?prod=6mmspacer
http://www.piloracing.com/proddetail.php?prod=3mmspacer

Don't forget to get longer bolts if you go for the 6mm - which is another 50 bucks
 
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Old 12-07-2005 | 10:19 PM
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well, maybe i mistranslated what i thought, you are correct Ken, it is not stickin' out but looks perfect.

ugly_duckling, yours look fine man, nothing wrong.
 
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Old 12-08-2005 | 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ugly_duckling
The stock S lites have an offset of 45 if I am not mistaken.
Good thing you put that caveat - because I'm pretty sure they are 50...with most of the other MINI wheels around 48mm...
 
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Old 12-08-2005 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Tit
Good thing you put that caveat - because I'm pretty sure they are 50...with most of the other MINI wheels around 48mm...

yah, i think i read 50mm for the S-Lites too somewhere.

R90s are i think 48mm.
 
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Old 12-08-2005 | 10:13 AM
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despite what is posted in the FAQ on mini2, (and at the tire rack?) and here in many posts, both the czech and hungarian s lites are stamped with a 48mm offset.
 
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Old 12-08-2005 | 10:27 AM
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*******if u need them LMK ! "5mm spacers w/hubcentric properties all in one"" *-*****

Originally Posted by ugly_duckling
Maybe if you had a lowered 1979 Buick with gold wire wheels and a 'Jealousy' placque in the rear window THEN 45 mm might be a good idea - JK
do u own a ride like this? what chapter? on the "Jealousy" car club



Originally Posted by ugly_duckling
My wheels have 5mm spacer in the back. I used to have them in the front but I took them off because vibration.
why the vibration?

hmm, ur wheels dont l00k like ur runnin' spacers!! mayb its the pix
 
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Old 12-08-2005 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by flyboy2160
despite what is posted in the FAQ on mini2, (and at the tire rack?) and here in many posts, both the czech and hungarian s lites are stamped with a 48mm offset.


hummmm... those are fake. jk
 
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Old 12-08-2005 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by joker
do u own a ride like this? what chapter? on the "Jealousy" car club



why the vibration?

hmm, ur wheels dont l00k like ur runnin' spacers!! mayb its the pix
Joker - Sorry but I do not own that car. When I was growing up on the east/south side of San Jose Ca they were very popular - followed by the minitrucks and suzuki samurai's. I remember this kid at my high school had an Iroq and he was a part of the 'Jealousy' crew - but he was the biggest dork I ever met.

As for the vibration - I think they must have been by the spacer, because once I removed them the vibration stopped. The spacers were not hubcentric.
 
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