hubcentric rings - how tight a fit is right?
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hubcentric rings - how tight a fit is right?
I'm new to the world of hubcentric rings... how snug should the fit be between the ring and the wheel? I've got some rings that fall right in and just barely jiggle about in the wheel opening, and another bunch (of metal rings) that require body weight or a rubber mallet to get seated in the wheel.
Is it worse to have rings that are a pain to seat and remove (not that I foresee a need to remove the rings), or rings that will fall out whenever I remove the wheels? :D
Is it worse to have rings that are a pain to seat and remove (not that I foresee a need to remove the rings), or rings that will fall out whenever I remove the wheels? :D
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My track wheels require hubcentics and they fit is snug. I agree it was a real pain to get them off. What I did was to gouge a notch in the back side of the ring so I could wedge a flat blade screw driver between the ring and the hub and pry it off. Now its non issue. This tip should work for you as well.
Randy
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When I had my S-Lites put on for the winter, the metal hubcentric rings I had for my FLIKs (3 of the 4) had to be destroyed to get off. The shop had to break them to get them off. I watched the whole process and they did everything you could imagine to get them off without breaking them. I had plastic ones for the first summer but my wheel had some shake in it so I decided to use the metal ones. They helped tremendously so I hesitate to go back to plastic. However, I don't want to go through that again to get the metal ones off. So, to answer the intial question, I don't know since I didn't watch them put them on.
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If theres any slop...
it's too much! My plastic rings had a few thousandths of an inch slop, and if I wasn't very carfull torquing the lugs, I'd get vibration.
The metal rings had to be put in with a mallet (not hard, but couldn't install them by hand). The wheel comes off the hub fine, and there's no vibration at with the metal rings.
If you have corrosion or crap on the hubs, clean it off with a wire wheel before putting the anti-sieze on.
Matt
The metal rings had to be put in with a mallet (not hard, but couldn't install them by hand). The wheel comes off the hub fine, and there's no vibration at with the metal rings.
If you have corrosion or crap on the hubs, clean it off with a wire wheel before putting the anti-sieze on.
Matt
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Originally Posted by Dr Obnxs
it's too much! My plastic rings had a few thousandths of an inch slop, and if I wasn't very carfull torquing the lugs, I'd get vibration.
The metal rings had to be put in with a mallet (not hard, but couldn't install them by hand). The wheel comes off the hub fine, and there's no vibration at with the metal rings.
The metal rings had to be put in with a mallet (not hard, but couldn't install them by hand). The wheel comes off the hub fine, and there's no vibration at with the metal rings.
Thanks... I guess I wasn't quite clear enough in my original question. So far, I have only played with the rings and the wheels in my apartment. I haven't gotten to the point of checking the rings against the hubs on the car.
Matt's answer seems to be the answer to the question I had.
I'm familiar with fitting wheels on the hubs (without rings), so I know how close a fit that should be. The unknown was the fit between the rings and the wheels.
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The answer is metal rings and the use of anti-sieze. If you can wait to allow the hubs to cool, even better. However, even with the anti-sieze I often need to use a flat screw driver to remove the rings since I don't have time to wait for the hubs to cool - drive to autocross, change wheels, beat a few Z06's, change wheels back. I autocross on Rota's, which are hubcentric. My street wheels are not, thus the reason for the ring dance at each event. Oh, and the plastic ones will warp, whereas the metals one haven't, so far.
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OK, my wheels arrived with the plastic rings way back when, I had expected metal. But I went ahead and all was OK. The metal ones showed up two days later.
I will switch to the metal rings when I rotate shortly. I got metal hub rings and also round 'spring' wire rings. Do the wire rings go in the wheel first or after the hubcentric ring. I assume they either a spacer if first or a retainer if last?
Thanks
I will switch to the metal rings when I rotate shortly. I got metal hub rings and also round 'spring' wire rings. Do the wire rings go in the wheel first or after the hubcentric ring. I assume they either a spacer if first or a retainer if last?
Thanks