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Direct thread or Banjo, how do I tell?

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Old 05-17-2006, 02:53 PM
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Direct thread or Banjo, how do I tell?

Hi All:

Forgive me if this has been posted already, but I'm trying to figure out which of these two I have on my 2006, as I'm trying to get a rear kit to match my TCE front BBK.

I need to know if I have rear hoses with direct thread to the caliper or if I have
a banjo and banjo bolt on the end into the caliper body.

How exactly can I tell which I have?

Thanks in advance,
-Justyn
 
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Anyone?
 
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Banjo fittings usually have a bolt head with the line coming it perpendicular to the bolt. Direct thread have the line attached inline with a hex wrenching surface.

Banjo fittings are named for their resemblance to a banjo, a round open ring end with a perpendicular 'neck' which is the line itself.
 
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Direct thread in the rear.
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Thanks to the both of you. Actually, I'm told that I could have either one on my 2006, so I will check tomorrow. Thanks again for the prompt replies.

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My gut feeling is direct also. But I've seen banjos on later cars now as well. Seems BMW is sourcing two parts I guess.

Direct is just that: the rubber hose has a steel end and simply screws into the caliper on the side. The hex on the end of the hose is a M14 wrench.

Banjo has a steel end on it with a hex bolt and crush washers to seal it, passing into the caliper body. The banjo bolt will have a large hex head to it- perhaps M17 or M19 wrench needed.
 
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Old 05-18-2006, 12:17 PM
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Stuck my head in there this morning, it was a direct fit line. My calipers are on the way to you, Todd. Can't wait to get the rear kit fitted (as well as the front). Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Greatbear
Banjo fittings usually have a bolt head with the line coming it perpendicular to the bolt. Direct thread have the line attached inline with a hex wrenching surface.

Banjo fittings are named for their resemblance to a banjo, a round open ring end with a perpendicular 'neck' which is the line itself.
This description helped me tremendously. I thought I would attach a photo of my direct line so that future searchers will have a visible guide also:

 
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I'm saving this one for future reference. Hope it will help everyone looking at rear rotor kits!
 
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Old 09-08-2006, 05:39 PM
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hey guys these are pics of my brake lines.

Do i have direct threads or banjo threads?

Thanks
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That would be direct thread. The first pic shows the brake line 'directly threaded' into the caliper body.
 
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Old 09-08-2006, 08:46 PM
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thought so. thanks!
 
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Old 09-09-2006, 10:22 AM
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So...is a banjo better, same or worse than a direct thread?
 
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Your'e making waaayyy too much of this. It's just for ID of the type of rear hose kit you need to replace the rubber lines.

It doesn't make a hill of beans difference on the car. Unless you get the wrong ones and have the car torn apart in the drive way on Saturday afternoon....
 
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Old 09-09-2006, 10:35 AM
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Ok...so banjo lines won't go into a direct thread caliper?
 
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What would be the point? You got a set you want to make work? You could drill out the current hole, tap it M12 and make them work.
 
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Old 09-09-2006, 03:14 PM
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I'm asking because I've seen a couple of vendors lately advertising "we're clearing out these braided/stainless brake line sets with banjo fittings".
I have factory 03 brakes, which it appears are probably direct thread. Now I know that these clearance brake lines are no use to me.
 
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