Performance all-season decision
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Performance all-season decision
I've narrowed my choice down to three 205/55/15 non-run-flat tires to put on the Konig Rewinds (carbon) that will be coming in two weeks. I'd like to substantially improve the road noise over the OEM Dunlop SP Sport 3000A DSST run-flats, without giving up too much performance. Also, living in Seattle, I need a tire that can handle wet surfaces almost as well as dry. My choices are:
Kumho ASX
BF Goodrich Traction T/A
Yokohama Avid V4s
I'd appreciate your thoughts, especially if you've had first-hand experience with any of these tires.
Kumho ASX
BF Goodrich Traction T/A
Yokohama Avid V4s
I'd appreciate your thoughts, especially if you've had first-hand experience with any of these tires.
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This isn't on your list, but I'll throw it out there:
Falken Ziex ZE 512 in 205/55/15 come in at 70$ a pop.
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...05&ar=55&rd=15
I had these on my last car and have zero complaints. For what they are, a high performance ALL SEASON, they do remarkably well. I was very impressed with their wet traction, and they even wore well on a car with a very messed up suspension and bent wheels. I think there are lots of people on here with them.
Had you eliminated them already?
mb
Falken Ziex ZE 512 in 205/55/15 come in at 70$ a pop.
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...05&ar=55&rd=15
I had these on my last car and have zero complaints. For what they are, a high performance ALL SEASON, they do remarkably well. I was very impressed with their wet traction, and they even wore well on a car with a very messed up suspension and bent wheels. I think there are lots of people on here with them.
Had you eliminated them already?
mb
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Currently running Michelin 205/50/16 Pilot Exalto PE2 on our 2006 "S" - got them as we too live in the Puget Sound area and were willing to sacrifice some ultimate dry performance for a tire that I could have confidence in in the wet. Had a great chance to test them in the rain on the 2 day "Run to Little Creek" Ralley this weekend - lots of rain both days and on the back roads we were on the tires were great. They are also relatively quiet. Check out the reviews on the Tire Rack Site.
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My friend has the Kumho ASX series tires and they SUCK in the rain. I wouldn't get them (don't know how the ASX compare?). But as far as dry weather, they are VERY nice tires and are pretty cheap too. As for the others, I don't know. Try Vulcan Tire for cheap prices (they have been recommended by many people).
I'm not sure about road noise or wet weather, but I've heard the Falken Azenis 615's are very good tires. Suppose to have crazy grip. They come in 205/50/R15 too.
www.vulcantire.com
Vulcan Tire as them for $50/tire. http://www.vulcantire.com/ze512_t.htm (205/50R15)
-Cody
I'm not sure about road noise or wet weather, but I've heard the Falken Azenis 615's are very good tires. Suppose to have crazy grip. They come in 205/50/R15 too.
www.vulcantire.com
Originally Posted by mbcoops
This isn't on your list, but I'll throw it out there:
Falken Ziex ZE 512 in 205/55/15 come in at 70$ a pop.
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...05&ar=55&rd=15
I had these on my last car and have zero complaints. For what they are, a high performance ALL SEASON, they do remarkably well. I was very impressed with their wet traction, and they even wore well on a car with a very messed up suspension and bent wheels. I think there are lots of people on here with them.
Had you eliminated them already?
mb
Falken Ziex ZE 512 in 205/55/15 come in at 70$ a pop.
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...05&ar=55&rd=15
I had these on my last car and have zero complaints. For what they are, a high performance ALL SEASON, they do remarkably well. I was very impressed with their wet traction, and they even wore well on a car with a very messed up suspension and bent wheels. I think there are lots of people on here with them.
Had you eliminated them already?
mb
-Cody
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Thanks, this is exactly why I come to you guys!
mbcoops - Falken Ziex 512's did start out on my list because Consumer Reports rates them very highly. After some research, I decided that the Falken's are high-value because they're relatively inexpensive and that I'd rather spend a little more to get a better tire. If I can't get a better tire... I'll get the Falkens.
CINIMIN - I had originally set a fairly arbitrary price limit of $100/tire, so I missed the Michelins. Their exceptional performance testing and reviews make them a strong consideration even at $116/tire. I especially appreciate the first-hand experience of driving a MINI with these tires on the rainy, moss-covered roads of the Northwest. Exceptional wet/dry performance AND quiet... I'll pay for that!
Michelin is the surprise leader so far... anybody else have experience with these tires?
Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S
Kumho ASX
BF Goodrich Traction T/A
Yokohama Avid V4S
mbcoops - Falken Ziex 512's did start out on my list because Consumer Reports rates them very highly. After some research, I decided that the Falken's are high-value because they're relatively inexpensive and that I'd rather spend a little more to get a better tire. If I can't get a better tire... I'll get the Falkens.
CINIMIN - I had originally set a fairly arbitrary price limit of $100/tire, so I missed the Michelins. Their exceptional performance testing and reviews make them a strong consideration even at $116/tire. I especially appreciate the first-hand experience of driving a MINI with these tires on the rainy, moss-covered roads of the Northwest. Exceptional wet/dry performance AND quiet... I'll pay for that!
Michelin is the surprise leader so far... anybody else have experience with these tires?
Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S
Kumho ASX
BF Goodrich Traction T/A
Yokohama Avid V4S
#6
Links down, and what about the Falken Azenis 615's?
Yea, but at $50/tire you can afford to replace them/beat the hell out of them at will!
-Cody
mbcoops - Falken Ziex 512's did start out on my list because Consumer Reports rates them very highly. After some research, I decided that the Falken's are high-value because they're relatively inexpensive and that I'd rather spend a little more to get a better tire. If I can't get a better tire... I'll get the Falkens.
-Cody
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I love my Toyos
Originally Posted by lurch70
hmm ... you can do better than the ones mentioned above ... those are a bit "passanger" sedan car performance tires.
try the Toyo Proxes 4 ... all season ultra high performance ... great in summer and rain and gave me no problems for 2 seasons of NYC snow ...
try the Toyo Proxes 4 ... all season ultra high performance ... great in summer and rain and gave me no problems for 2 seasons of NYC snow ...
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This may be stupid . . . but I thought that many performance tires are designed for both wet and dry roads . . . relatively warm temperatures and all. I thought all season tires were focused on having compound with a range for lower temperatures and the sipes for snow and ice. I would think the Puget Sound area would have the same issues I do with the monsoon in New Mexico: Summer tires in the summer and winter tires in the winter. If one isn't going up to the passes . . . then summer tires all year and you would be no worst off in the winter than you are all year with all seasons (always slow).
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In the Puget Sound area we really only have about three months a year that are mostly dry - that means NINE months of mostly wet. It's just not practical for me to buy a set of "summer" tires.
Conversely, we don't get much in the way of snow and ice in Seattle, and when that happens I'll carpool in the wife's Subaru and leave the MINI cozy in the garage.
The best tire for me is really a wet performance tire. I also want a significantly quieter ride while still being responsive. The Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S seems to have the best wet traction/quietest ride combination of the testing and reviews I've read.
So, to clarify... one set of performance tires with low road noise in a wet-road environment. If "summer" performance will meet these needs great, but wet traction is critical.
Conversely, we don't get much in the way of snow and ice in Seattle, and when that happens I'll carpool in the wife's Subaru and leave the MINI cozy in the garage.
The best tire for me is really a wet performance tire. I also want a significantly quieter ride while still being responsive. The Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S seems to have the best wet traction/quietest ride combination of the testing and reviews I've read.
So, to clarify... one set of performance tires with low road noise in a wet-road environment. If "summer" performance will meet these needs great, but wet traction is critical.
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just got my Proxes 4s put on yesterday. WOW! why didn't i get rid of my runflats 3 years ago on day 1? night and day difference in ride. i can't give a full review on them yet as i only have about 70 miles on them so far but going for a little ride tonight and i'll report with more info later.
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Originally Posted by mbcoops
This isn't on your list, but I'll throw it out there:
Falken Ziex ZE 512 in 205/55/15 come in at 70$ a pop.
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...05&ar=55&rd=15
I had these on my last car and have zero complaints. For what they are, a high performance ALL SEASON, they do remarkably well. I was very impressed with their wet traction, and they even wore well on a car with a very messed up suspension and bent wheels. I think there are lots of people on here with them.
Falken Ziex ZE 512 in 205/55/15 come in at 70$ a pop.
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...05&ar=55&rd=15
I had these on my last car and have zero complaints. For what they are, a high performance ALL SEASON, they do remarkably well. I was very impressed with their wet traction, and they even wore well on a car with a very messed up suspension and bent wheels. I think there are lots of people on here with them.
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Originally Posted by BucketheadJones
In the Puget Sound area we really only have about three months a year that are mostly dry - that means NINE months of mostly wet. It's just not practical for me to buy a set of "summer" tires.
Conversely, we don't get much in the way of snow and ice in Seattle, and when that happens I'll carpool in the wife's Subaru and leave the MINI cozy in the garage.
The best tire for me is really a wet performance tire. I also want a significantly quieter ride while still being responsive. The Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S seems to have the best wet traction/quietest ride combination of the testing and reviews I've read.
So, to clarify... one set of performance tires with low road noise in a wet-road environment. If "summer" performance will meet these needs great, but wet traction is critical.
Conversely, we don't get much in the way of snow and ice in Seattle, and when that happens I'll carpool in the wife's Subaru and leave the MINI cozy in the garage.
The best tire for me is really a wet performance tire. I also want a significantly quieter ride while still being responsive. The Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S seems to have the best wet traction/quietest ride combination of the testing and reviews I've read.
So, to clarify... one set of performance tires with low road noise in a wet-road environment. If "summer" performance will meet these needs great, but wet traction is critical.
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Originally Posted by discodan
just got my Proxes 4s put on yesterday. WOW! why didn't i get rid of my runflats 3 years ago on day 1? night and day difference in ride. i can't give a full review on them yet as i only have about 70 miles on them so far but going for a little ride tonight and i'll report with more info later.
Cheers
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