Favorite rain/all season 17" performance tire?
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Favorite rain/all season 17" performance tire?
I'd been wondering how these Pirelli Euphorias would perform in the heavy wet weather we get, and now I have my answer: poorly.
The run-flats are okay - I don't mind the stiff side-wall and hence harsher ride - but I probably could get a better tire for the money if I went with something other than run-flats and threw a can of flat-fix and a AAA card in the boot.
I've looked through the Tire Rack site and even in non-run-flat I don't seem to have a lot of options (Kumho ECSTA, Goodyear Eagles and Avon Tech M550) in 205/45-17. So, those of you who live in the rainy and cool places, what tires are you running on? I've had Goodyear Eagles before and thought them on the over-rated side, especially for the price. Did you go to a different profile tire? I'm not thrilled about the idea of going below a 45.
The run-flats are okay - I don't mind the stiff side-wall and hence harsher ride - but I probably could get a better tire for the money if I went with something other than run-flats and threw a can of flat-fix and a AAA card in the boot.
I've looked through the Tire Rack site and even in non-run-flat I don't seem to have a lot of options (Kumho ECSTA, Goodyear Eagles and Avon Tech M550) in 205/45-17. So, those of you who live in the rainy and cool places, what tires are you running on? I've had Goodyear Eagles before and thought them on the over-rated side, especially for the price. Did you go to a different profile tire? I'm not thrilled about the idea of going below a 45.
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Ditto on the Kumho ASX. I'm running a 215/40-17 for my winter tires here in Salt Lake City. I've gone through a couple of sets, and for the price, they work perfectly!
I like the shorter profile which gives me a sharper turn-in. A bit of a compromise on the ride quality, but I don't mind feeling the road through my tush.
I like the shorter profile which gives me a sharper turn-in. A bit of a compromise on the ride quality, but I don't mind feeling the road through my tush.
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I am in Portland, and I am running BF Goodrich g-Force T/A KDW NT 215/45R-17
I got them at America's Tire who will treat you much better than Les Schwab. This is my 2nd set of them, and I ran them on my BMW before the Mini. Great tires, and they last about 30k miles depending on driving. As for rain, there is nothing I have found that works better. The only issue I have with them is that the little nubby things that come out from the molds tend to pinch between the wall of the tire and the rim. Make sure they address this on install, and you will be all right. Also, when you initially call them, tell them you are looking at tires from other stores, and they will become suprisingly negotiable!
I got them at America's Tire who will treat you much better than Les Schwab. This is my 2nd set of them, and I ran them on my BMW before the Mini. Great tires, and they last about 30k miles depending on driving. As for rain, there is nothing I have found that works better. The only issue I have with them is that the little nubby things that come out from the molds tend to pinch between the wall of the tire and the rim. Make sure they address this on install, and you will be all right. Also, when you initially call them, tell them you are looking at tires from other stores, and they will become suprisingly negotiable!
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I've had both of those sets, and they are great tires until you hit winter rain in Portland. The BF Goodrich tires I posted earlier are the only ones I haven't hydroplaned with here. I will say that I liked the Yokos over the Toyos. They were a little more grippy in all weather.
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I have the Avon's on the Mini and the Kumho ASX's on the G35 and both are great tires. The Kumho's seem a little more 'squishy' and quieter which could either be the car or the tire themselves (the G35 has 18" wheels and 245-40-18 front and 255-45-18 rears). They both seems about the same in rain, though neither seems as sure footed as the Pilot Sports that were on the G35 when I got it. As far as snow goes, the ASX's are pretty decent since i could hardly move with the Pilots, and not I can barely get around. I haven't driven the Mini in the snow yet though to let you know.
Basically, if you are leaving it up to these tires, I would more or less just go by price at that point, they are both excellent all seasons...
Basically, if you are leaving it up to these tires, I would more or less just go by price at that point, they are both excellent all seasons...
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I put the BF Goodrich g-Force KDW2's on my MINI, and it changed the whole dynamic of the car.
They are VERY superior to any tire I have ever had, wet traction is nary discernable from dry.
Link: http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=EZ3&url=/tires/tires.jsp&tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=g-Force+T%2FA+KDW+2
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They are VERY superior to any tire I have ever had, wet traction is nary discernable from dry.
Link: http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=EZ3&url=/tires/tires.jsp&tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=g-Force+T%2FA+KDW+2
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I put the BF Goodrich g-Force KDW2's on my MINI, and it changed the whole dynamic of the car.
They are VERY superior to any tire I have ever had, wet traction is nary discernable from dry.
Link: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ce+T%2FA+KDW+2
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They are VERY superior to any tire I have ever had, wet traction is nary discernable from dry.
Link: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ce+T%2FA+KDW+2
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Quick update - I asked about this back in September, and in October I purchased a set of 215-45-17 Kumho ECSTA ASX tires. The total, including mounting and balancing (and tax), ran just under $400. These have been great tires, especially for the money - we've had torrential rain, ice, more snow than normal and the tires have been great. The switch away from run flats makes a less harsh ride with much less kickback from road bumps and much less tendency to follow road ruts.
I have had two flat tires (thank you %$#@ construction workers down the street!), but neither were catastrophic, just slow leaks. I now carry a AAA card, a patch kit, a compressor and a can of flat fix (which the tire shop guys begged me never to use, lol....)
I have had two flat tires (thank you %$#@ construction workers down the street!), but neither were catastrophic, just slow leaks. I now carry a AAA card, a patch kit, a compressor and a can of flat fix (which the tire shop guys begged me never to use, lol....)