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Old 12-12-2006, 02:52 PM
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Centering ring question

Would a set of 73mm OD centering rings be too snug on wheels with a 73mm center bore? And 56.15mm is the proper inner diameter for our cars, correct?
 
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should be snug so 73 to 73 should be okay, right?

i thought the center bore is 56mm and the wheel is suppose to
have a 56.1mm for 0.05mm clearance on each side.

.... like they can make them with such tolerances anyway.
rusty center bore + yada yada wheels.
 
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Old 12-12-2006, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
rusty center bore + yada yada wheels.
'Yada yada wheels'? I cant find those at any of the usual vendors. What do they look like? How much do they weigh? Do they have a website?
 
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Old 12-12-2006, 05:03 PM
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^^ why are people sensitive to my weirdo posts and pay no
attention to my serious posts?
 
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56.1mm is the correct size for the hub (ID).

72mm on a 72mm rim should work as well.

In my opinion, the key is to not zap the lugs on with a impact. Take the extra time to make sure the lugs set correctly and you shouldn't have problems. I've ran wheels on our Miata where the center of the wheel is MUCH larger than the hub, and as long as I make sure all 4 lugs (actually lug nuts!) are seated correctly, I don't have any vibration problems.

Hub centeric rings are for sissy's! hehehehe
 
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Thanks guys. I never bothered with hubcentric rings on my old M3, and it seemed like most other BMW owners didn't either. The MINI crowd, on the other hand, seems to use them in most applications.
 
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Originally Posted by snM3
Thanks guys. I never bothered with hubcentric rings on my old M3, and it seemed like most other BMW owners didn't either. The MINI crowd, on the other hand, seems to use them in most applications.
it's either because your M3 wheels were already hubcentric
without needing centering rings, or used quality wheels that
were lug centric and didn't wobble.

i don't really need centering rings on my wheels either, but
since they came with them (tirerack) im using it as is. ive
never had a wheel wobble purchased from the tirerack.
 
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Old 12-13-2006, 01:15 AM
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I've got a new set of wheels on and they wobble around 80km/hr ...I've taken them back to the tyre vendor again, to no avail. The tech said it's because my locator rings are slightly loose (VERY slightly)....I think he's making excuses...hopefully I can get the wheels balanced properly somewhere else...

Do any of you think it's actually possible if I've aligned the lugnut holes closely and tightened the lugs properly??
 
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Try and find a shop with a "road force balancer" like this:

http://www.weightsaver.com/index.htm

Check out the video on this website. It will tell you everything you ever wanted to know about wheel balancing.
 
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Originally Posted by mitchman
56.1mm is the correct size for the hub (ID).
If you are referring to the hub, then the 56.1mm would be the OD.
 
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Tit- i know it's kinda hard to do a star pattern with only 4 lugs
but you tightened them down by opposing sides, right?

if you did that, using centering rings that are slightly loose (which is
normal) and still wobble, you got either a bad balance, bad tire, or bad
wheel. i think it's just a matter of bad balance but some wheels are
born with defects where it can not be balanced correctly. those are
defects and should be entitled to a replacement.
 
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hahah...you knew what I meant!

The tyres are Toyo Proxes4's - I'd be surprised and dissapointed if it was those.. The wheels are cheapies...the guys that did the first balance said that the wheels took very little weight to balance on their machine....which surprised me slightly...

I'll go get it done somewhere else and if that dosen't work I'll start to get a little concerned...

Do any of you think I could do any damage by driving on slightly unbalanced wheels... (I'm sure lots of lazy people do it all the time)


Originally Posted by kenchan
Tit- i know it's kinda hard to do a star pattern with only 4 lugs
but you tightened them down by opposing sides, right?

if you did that, using centering rings that are slightly loose (which is
normal) and still wobble, you got either a bad balance, bad tire, or bad
wheel. i think it's just a matter of bad balance but some wheels are
born with defects where it can not be balanced correctly. those are
defects and should be entitled to a replacement.
 
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