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Old 01-26-2007, 04:38 PM
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What is Stock MINI Offset?

OK .... I've been searching for 30 mins now to try to find out what the stock offset is for the Mini? No joy. I have a great deal on Motegi MR7s, but want to make sure that they will fit OK.

The tires that I'm going to fit are the OEM Pirelli run flats 205 45 17s.

My car is not lowered at all as I use it as a daily driver here in Ontario (SNOW)
 

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The 16" R84 X-Lites are 48 mm; the 17" R85 S-Lites are 50 mm. Not sure about other sizes or wheel styles.
 
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No joy .... lots of wheels to see though, just not the Motegi MR7.

I know that they fit Civics (oops did I really say that on this site), cause that is what these came off of.

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What is the offset, bolt pattern and center bore of the Motegi wheels?
 
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r85 = +50 offset
r90, r91, r97, r98, r99, r104, r108 = +48 offset

You can run lower offsets... my aftermarket 17s are +42 offset.

Rather than continuing the guess work, what are the offsets of the wheels you are interested in? We can tell if they will work or not.

You will need a 56.1 centerbore and a 4x100 bolt pattern. The centerbore may be larger, you'll need hub centric rings to fit.


BTW, the link posted earlier had all the offsets I posted... just had to scroll down to the 17s.
 
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Originally Posted by goin440
r85 = +50 offset
r90, r91, r97, r98, r99, r104, r108 = +48 offset

You can run lower offsets... my aftermarket 17s are +42 offset.

Rather than continuing the guess work, what are the offsets of the wheels you are interested in? We can tell if they will work or not.

You will need a 57.1 centerbore and a 4x100 bolt pattern. The centerbore may be larger, you'll need hub centric rings to fit.


BTW, the link posted earlier had all the offsets I posted... just had to scroll down to the 17s.
Wheel diameter 17" Offset is +40, centre bore is 2.862" bolt pattern is 4x100
 
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2.86200" = 72.6948 mm so you'll need hubcentric inserts to fit to your hub.

They'll fit.
 
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Ahhh.... remembered something too. You may need longer lug bolts to fit, but there isn't anyway to tell til you get the wheels.

If you ask the seller for hubcentric rings for a 56.1 centerbore, they hopefully will include them.
 
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Hub center is 56.1 mm, not 57.1 mm.
 
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Originally Posted by gt6
Hub center is 56.1 mm, not 57.1 mm.
Yes... my bad. Good save.

Is the throttle body 57mm? I wonder where I got that number


I edited my earlier posts to reflect correctly.
 
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Thanks all ... I bought the MR7s .... just getting them blasted and refinished in white as they are chipped ..... I'll post the results when they're fitted.

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57.1 is a VW centerbore... and THEY will fit too... but 0.5mm centering ring is tough to find. Maybe I'll cut up a pop can... back to your regularly scheduled program.

I have 42mm offset BBS 17x7 and they're no problem, can't imagine 2mm making much of a difference. Note the above about possibly needing longer lug bolts.
 
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Originally Posted by Roadsailer
OK .... I've been searching for 30 mins now to try to find out what the stock offset is for the Mini? No joy. I have a great deal on Motegi MR7s, but want to make sure that they will fit OK.

The tires that I'm going to fit are the OEM Pirelli run flats 205 45 17s.

My car is not lowered at all as I use it as a daily driver here in Ontario (SNOW)
Offset is important.

Centerbore
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/....jsp?techid=91

Offset
http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/...jsp?techid=101

For any stock MINI with stock suspension you can use aftermarket rims with about +37mm to +50mm offsets.

4x100 bolt pattern and most will be larger hub bore than 56.1mm which is standard for the MINI. Some Rota rims will come with that option.

For most rims it will be larger than 56.1mm so you can ask the vendor or order on your own some centering rings which come in hard plastic or metal. There are many different sizes so specify your desired hub bore is to fit 56.1mm.

Wheel hub centric rings from $22 a set of four
http://www.1010tires.com/hubrings.asp

Roadsailer,
For the Motegi MR7
The rings should be:
72.62 mm 56.15 mm Plastic $21.99 or Aluminum $30.99
 
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Old 01-28-2007, 03:32 AM
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Thank you all so much

I REALLY appreciate all of your time and effort

I have ordered composite rings as they are strong and don't corrode. All that I need to do now is to find out what size bolts to go for. I know that the Mini uses Tapered seat 12x1.5 by 38 mm as stock and my wheel bolt head openings are a little over .75" with a wheel face thickness of approx 10mm.

Paul
 

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Paul, did you end up getting these wheels? I was thinking about getting a set, but can't find any pictures on a MINI and would love to see yours if you got them.

Mike
 
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Motegi MR7s

Originally Posted by muidaq
Paul, did you end up getting these wheels? I was thinking about getting a set, but can't find any pictures on a MINI and would love to see yours if you got them.

Mike
Sorry forgot to post a photo ... here you go.
Handling is good and I needed narrower lugs, so I went for a lug conversion






 
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Originally Posted by DixonL2
57.1 is a VW centerbore... and THEY will fit too... but 0.5mm centering ring is tough to find. Maybe I'll cut up a pop can... back to your regularly scheduled program.
I have a set of e30 iX wheels I'm using for winter wheels - what can I use as a centering ring?

Thanks!
 
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If you have tapered lugs you may not need a centering ring. The lug tapers will effectively center the wheel if properly torqued (snug 'em on opposite sides, then torque to spec - using a hand-held torque wrench - on opposing lugs. Drive to the end of the driveway and back, then re-torque. Should work!
 
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Originally Posted by DixonL2
If you have tapered lugs you may not need a centering ring. The lug tapers will effectively center the wheel if properly torqued (snug 'em on opposite sides, then torque to spec - using a hand-held torque wrench - on opposing lugs. Drive to the end of the driveway and back, then re-torque. Should work!
I did this, but I had a bit of trouble yesterday - the wheels have been on for about a month ago, and yesterday after some "spirited" driving, I got a funny feeling coming from the wheels - some heavy vibration being felt through the steering wheel. I first thought I had tossed a wheel weight, but then at slow speeds (ie barely rolling) I could feel the steering wheel kicking on rotation - pretty hard I might add.

I was close to my dealership, so I swung in and grabbed a torque wrench and started checking wheels. Both rears were fine, right front, one of the four lugs was loose by a full rotation, not a big deal.

The front left wheel, however, had two loose lugs - one made it 5 or 6 full rotations before torquing properly, another 3 or 4. WAY too loose, obviously. So I snugged everything down, and drove away. Still getting the kick - so now I'm afraid I may have bent the wheel at the center. I have two spares, so I'm going to check it out tomorrow, but I'm concerned this may happen again. How can I make sure they're secure and mounted correctly, or do I just need to check the torques more often?
 
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