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Old 02-09-2007, 10:01 AM
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Help - Wheel is stuck on hub

I removed the 4 bolts but the rear wheel will not budge or come off the hub/brake rotor. I tried hammering it with rubber mallet and other things, but it just wont come off. I don't think it's rusted. How can I get the wheel off?!!

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Old 02-09-2007, 10:05 AM
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spray it with penatrating oil and hit it harder.......
 
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Old 02-09-2007, 10:08 AM
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A rubber mallet is about as good as a fly swatter. Get a piece of 2"x6", with a heavy hammer, 2 or more pounds, rest the 2"x6" up on the rim and hit it. It will come off. Be sure to have a helper when the rim comes off it will want to roll away or fall on the center & put a ding in it or, worse, it will roll into someones car door.
 
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Old 02-09-2007, 10:11 AM
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lay on your back and kick the snot out of it
 
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Old 02-09-2007, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by stevecars60
Be sure to have a helper when the rim comes off it will want to roll away or fall on the center & put a ding in it or, worse, it will roll into someones car door.
Better yet, leave one of the bolts partway in so it cannot fall off.
 
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Old 02-09-2007, 10:22 AM
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Yep - standard stuff. Keep whacking (make sure the car is secure!) - the mallet worked for me. It can help to rotate the wheels a bit during the process. The wheels are hubcentric and the wheel 'fuse' to the hubs. After you get it off, a thin layer of grease solves the issue. Some recommend loosening the lugs and turning a figure 8, but I'm not comfortable with that approach.
 
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Old 02-09-2007, 10:23 AM
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Before re-assembly be sure to put a thin coat of anti-sieze on the hub surface.
 
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Originally Posted by Squirlz
Better yet, leave one of the bolts partway in so it cannot fall off.
That would depend on how good the paint on the wheel is ( where the lugs seat ).

"Some recommend loosening the lugs and turning a figure 8, but I'm not comfortable with that approach."

Wow, who thought of that???? That can't be good for the rim or the lugs. I'm with you on that one
 
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Old 02-09-2007, 10:43 AM
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Thanks for the advice. I already tried whacking it and kicking it and prying it and jacking the car up and letting it down "fast" several times -- still no budge. I'm hoping the penetrating oil (like liquid wrench?) will work.

What about heating the wheel so it expands away from the hub?? (Not that I have any idea how to heat the wheel - I don't have a blow torch).
 
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Old 02-09-2007, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Galaxie500
Thanks for the advice. I already tried whacking it and kicking it and prying it and jacking the car up and letting it down "fast" several times -- still no budge. I'm hoping the penetrating oil (like liquid wrench?) will work.

What about heating the wheel so it expands away from the hub?? (Not that I have any idea how to heat the wheel - I don't have a blow torch).
No. Don't heat the wheel with a torch. If you're still using a rubber mallet, it won't work..... No weight or shock..... If you live where there is salt air or salt on the ground those wheels are on there. I have a friend that blew a runflat, here in New England. Thee wheels were on the car since new, about 1 1/2 years. They did not come off easily even after using Nut Buster.
 
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Originally Posted by BradB
Before re-assembly be sure to put a thin coat of anti-sieze on the hub surface.
I was under the impression that this would be a bad thing to do... The wheel to hub surface acts in part with the lug nuts/bolts and the hubcentric rings to keep the wheels on the car. Adding a slipping agent will remove this connection from the overall package, putting more stress on the other 2 components. I've had to use a 2x4 padding and a hand-sledge to free a frozen wheel before (gently)... I'd probably clean up the wheel / hub mating surface with a bit of sandpaper once I got everything free and just remember to rotate more frequently.

Haven't seen you in a while, Brad! How are things?
 
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Old 08-25-2007, 07:23 PM
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Just put some juice into your kick....it will come off eventually. I had to beat the living crap out of one of my wheels to get it to come off......
 
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just finger tight the lugs and slowly do a figure 8. it will come loose.
 
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Old 08-25-2007, 09:24 PM
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a 2 x 4 (cut the right length) and a jack can be used to push the wheel off
 
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Old 08-25-2007, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
just finger tight the lugs and slowly do a figure 8. it will come loose.
Wow that wheel is really stuck.

I'm glad I change wheels each week so I don't have that problem but I've seen others that don't rotate and the wheels are stuck like yours. Anti- seize on the hubs are fine to use.

Normally I would have suggested all those things tried and usually they do work.

Liquid nitrogen maybe? Don't wack it hard when frozen, it might shatter.

Loose lug nuts and slow figure 8 would be safe approach.
 
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Old 08-25-2007, 10:47 PM
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crawl under ur car and kick it from inside. and when i say kick it, i mean kick it HARDD.. kick it with HATRED... PAT PAT PAT PAT PAT POWWWWWWWWW

my bbs gets stuck everytime i put em on.. time to put some crap load of anti seizes on em the next time i put em on..
 
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Old 08-25-2007, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by kenchan
just finger tight the lugs and slowly do a figure 8. it will come loose.
I've done this before on old British cars with good results. You haven't seen a stuck wheel until you've seen a knock-off wire wheel fused to the splined hub.
 
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